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September 12, 2009



Saul "Rules for Radicals" Alinsky's teachings influenced Barack Obama in his early career as a community organizer on the far South Side of Chicago. Working for Gerald Kellman's Developing Communities Project, Obama learned and taught Alinsky's methods for community organizing.

-For Clinton and Obama, a Common Ideological Touchstone by Peter Slevin, The Washington Post, March 25, 2007

Alinsky on the ethics of means and ends:

-The judgment of the ethics of means is dependent upon the political position of those sitting in judgment.

-In war the end justifies almost any means.

-Judgment must be made in the context of the times in which the action occurred and not from any other chronological vantage point.

-Concern with ethics increases with the number of means available and vice versa.

-The less important the end to be desired, the more one can afford to engage in ethical evaluations of means.

-Generally, success or failure is a mighty determinant of ethics.

-The morality of a means depends upon whether the means is being employed at a time of imminent defeat or imminent victory.

-Any effective means is automatically judged by the opposition as being unethical.

-You do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments.

-Goals must be phrased in general terms like "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity," "Of the Common Welfare," "Pursuit of Happiness," or "Bread and Peace." (Or Hopey-Change?)


Most politicians, Democrat and Republican have Hitler's rules down pat. I can't remember when I have heard a liberal ever admit to being wrong. I don't trust liberals. They are willing to be liberal with truth, but who cares as long as power is maintained.

J Cluver

callihg it Hitler propaganda is in itself a form of propaganda, cxalled name calling. fact is all groups attempting to gain our support use it. Their purpose is to gain support from the ignorant and the lazy who look for simple answers to complex issues.If we are interested at all in an issue we need to take the time to do real problem solving.

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