by Teh Nutroots | To be fair, he doesn't actually excommunicate them or anything---just says that, having cooperated with "intrinsic evil," they need to do penance. The Priest, who can't have been paying close attention, says that Obama is the most radical "pro-abortion politician" ever. (YN) As for me, I've never met anyone who is pro-abortion; most Americans I know just think that the Catholic church doesn't get to decide for people who are not members when life begins and what God's opinion is on abortion. In other words, they are pro-choice. I myself am anti-abortion but completely pro-choice. They are not mutually exclusive.
Let us hope we see a bit more separation between church and state in the coming years. Confusing a religious conviction with a political principle is the first step on the road to theocracy.
The good father said he isn't partisan or anything. He's a single-issue condemner:
"It was not an attempt to make a partisan point," Newman said in a telephone interview Thursday. "In fact, in this election, for the sake of argument, if the Republican candidate had been pro-abortion, and the Democratic candidate had been pro-life, everything that I wrote would have been exactly the same."(AP)
At least he didn't fall back on calling Obama the Anti-Christ.
The National Director of Catholic Democrats has pointed out that this parish priest, not being the Pope, has exceeded his authority. My own thought is that "Catholic Democrat" is---or perhaps ought to be---an oxymoron, but I admit that I have problems with any church or religion that claims to know the will and thoughts of God. For example, there's substantial evidence he isn't bothered about death---and indeed, if he exists, why should he be?
One of my co-bloggers---a very religious person---fell out with the Church of Rome when she read about the Cathar genocide during the Albigensien Crusades. (AP) ("Yeah, it was a long time ago. What of it? So was the Crucifixion.") And of course there have been many other crusades and instances of torture and mass murder. She finds their current fixation on the unborn hypocritical.
I don't know. I myself, no longer a person of faith if I ever was, find all religions equally baffling, so you may take my observations on Catholicism with a ton or so of salt.
The Spanish Inquisition was no picnic either:
I am very glad that I was brought up in the Church of "Cake or Death."
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I am a Roman Catholic. My church is liberal and we do anti-poverty, anti-crime, anti-School of the Americas outreach, among many other activities. We pray for an end to abortion, poverty, violence, and war.
But we are not an abortion-centered church as many are in our Diocese. It is funny to see old congregations, Catholics who go to weekly Mass as I do are 'aging', center their worship on anti-abortion. The wars waged in their name and with their tax dollars, the increasing poverty do not seem to be an actual problem for the majority of these congregants. They are abortion centered.
I am certain when they go to confession they say, "Bless me, Father, for others have sinned."
The fact is that in America there are two Roman Catholic churches and sooner or later there will be a split.
Priests like this priest are youngish and the Church increasingly draws very conservative young men to the priesthood. There are fewer priests, obviously, and the liberal younish men do not become priests at as high a rate as the conservative ones.
It is a sad situation and mirrors all the Christian Faiths that have a belief in Liberal Arts and discussion.
Posted by: tjproudamerican | November 14, 2008 at 11:05 AM
i am definetly pro-life, but i would never base my presidential decision on the matter of abortion. After Roe vs. Wade, there have been few pro-choice presidents and most presidents have been pro-life. So many people voted for them just because of abortion, but did they do anything about it?No. The fact is, these presidents were pro-life, but i dont think that the idea of president just being pro-life and not doing anything about it is a real way to base decisions
Posted by: barnacleboy | December 08, 2008 at 11:37 AM